I want Record Shelving, something for my Lps and singles!


Ikea Expedit?

NOTE Ikea Expedit NOW UNAVAILABLE, AN EQUIVALENT WE ARE TOLD IS KALLAX – General opinion is that this new range will cope with records too. but i would personally excercise some caution.

I recently moved and needed to find storage for Lps, 12″ 10″ and 7″ singles that had been up in the Attic way too long.

I posted on a few forums and did some research, settling on the Ikea Expedit range as a possible answer to my storage woes; then I had my interest in the range confirmed by a number of people who like me are music obsessives. They too had either thought of purchasing or already had bought this shelving from Ikea for their collections.

Reasons to be cheerful?

Here are some reasons why this might work for you; 15″x15″ cubes (perfect for 12″ records), a 4×4 or 5×5 cube option, delivery of the flat packs by Ikea, a pretty easy build, which you could try on your own, but is better with two and a good look and finish.

Each cube is rated to take approximately 75Lps, though actually you could fit more in each 15″x15″ ‘hole’. Friends tell me that they have completely filled their shelves and the units have stayed solid over time, so you could, and I emphasise ‘could’ consider loading them up if your collection demands.

Putting them together is, pretty easy. At least I, and I’m not some drill toting DIY’er found it so.

They fix to the wall to prevent death and disaster and once they are, are very solid. Until that moment they like trying to to turn themselves into a parralellogram, so wall fixing is essential. Though they include what ammounts to a disclaimer in their instructions, they DO include brackets with your shelves’ ‘kit’.

They are not expensive and if you take the time to work out what they would cost you purely in materials let alone the time in design and construction, you’ll want to go for the buy it now option. Your wallet will probably agree as yet again Ikea sell lower than you could imagine and to boot they have a very nice finish quality for the money you’ll be paying.

Reasons to be tearful?

The delivery charge in the UK at £35 is a tad high I feel, considering the probablility that as large a corporation as Ikea most certainly is, they’d have other deliveries pretty close by and could ‘share’ those costs around a bit better.

When constructing mine, there were some minor defects. A small part of the lamination on a shelf had been dented and pushed up, most likely in manufacture; if I’d been really smart I could have hidden this by flipping the shelf and placing it the other way round, thus placing the ‘dent’ underneath and at the back of the shelf, unfortunately I didn’t. Doh!

Biggest Worry – Also and much more importantly, on one of the load bearing side panels some of the holes (3-4) prepared to receive the pegs from the shelving levels were not drilled properly and so the pegs move around within the holes designed to receive them; this means that they will not function properly in their load bearing capacity and if you are only shelving heavy vinyl records, this is most definately a concern.

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Calypso Date! MRS LOML 503 12″ Mento Lp


Oh that smile!

Calypso Date – MRS Lp LOML 503

For those Mento mad amongst you here are some details that I hope you will find of interest. Click on the images for larger versions of the files, and in the case of the rear cover, readable text, though I will include that text here for all to see. The sleeve notes are unusually well written and include descriptions of the songs and their background history in some cases.

Details:

LP    MRS    VARIOUS ARTISTES    CALYPSO DATE    LOML 503    SMOL 105 1B    STANLEY MOTTA    JAMAICA    1950s

(anyone out there have a date of release, if so please contact me here at Musical Traces)

Sleeve Notes:

The most remarkable feature of this album is its variety. Here is represented the whole broad gamut of Jamaica’s music, the sly, ironic humour, the warm spontaneity, the carefree and gay attitude towards life that is so much part of Jamaica. This music is bred of the brilliant colour and contrasts that inspire the Jamaican troubadour; and out of it flows the endless, subdued excitement that life in one of the world’s most beautiful islands inspires.

In this album are Calypsos and Mentos. The Calypso is the generic ballad of the Caribbean, the song that is inspired by the life of the community – the young girl who lives gaily but not wisely; the house with the leaking roof. These are the creations of Calypsonians who vie with each other to create songs of humour, of double meaning, of perceptive wit. The Mento is the music of Jamaica, the solid, thumping rhythm of music that in its beat and texture is subtly Jamaican, as distinguishable to the tuned ear as is the difference between the Merengue of Haiti and the Samba of Brazil. And there are the other ageless songs, those that are chanted by workmen as they bend their muscles to rhythmic work saved from monotony by song, or the gay song of welcome when the pretty young girl comes to visit.

These are the songs and the sounds of Jamaica, ever exciting and interesting, that will become familiar and beloved as you listen to them. This is the music of a beautiful land, inspired by its ageless hills and white sand beaches, its gay, laughing people and the rhythm of its sun-bright days. This is the music for you on your Jamaican date.

The songs:

SIDE 1

Linstead Market – The ackee is an attractive fruit of red, yellow and black, and when combined with salted cod makes one of the most popular native dishes. This song tells the sad tale of a higgler in the famous market of Linstead, on the road to Ocho Rios, who fails to find customers to buy her ackees at Saturday market.

The Naughty Little Flea – The humble flea occurs in the songs of many countries. If you listen carefully to the lyrics you’ll chuckle at the rather unique situation in which the little insect found itself.

Hill and Gully Ride – A rousing shout song that is used by Jamaican workmen. It follows the pattern of many rhythmic work songs in its responsive form, and is a folk song of rather more antiquity than the calypso which has been popular recently.

Matilda (and) Gal-A-Gully – The first is a Jamaican adaptation of a Trinidad song, one in which a hardworking young man is deceived by a scheming young miss who lifts his money and takes off for Venezuela. The second is Jamaican, the plaintive comment of a granny who asks her grandaughter just why she is going to the gully…’A Whey you-a go a-gully fa’.

This Long Time Gal A Never See You – A happy song of welcome, the lyrics of which are self-explanatory.

The Little Fly – Anyone who has had to clean a mirror can appreciate some of the more irritating habits of the fly. This song is one man’s comment.

SIDE2

Take Her To Jamaica – This song has become a standard in Jamaica. It is sung by calypsonians on all occasions and gives very good advice indeed.

Kitch – Lord Kitchener is one of the finest of the Trinidad calypsonians, and this song recounts his experiences with a rather insistent young lady.

Dry Weather House – It seldom rains heavily in Jamaica, but when it does all the defects of a house that is suited to dry weather show up.

Healin’ In De Balm Yard – The balm yard in Jamaica is the gathering place of members of a primitive evangelical sect. To balm yard gatherings they bring their troubles and woes where these can be banished.

Limbo – One of the most exciting dances, the limbo is done to a repetitious song that is almost hypnotic in its appeal. Some of the excitement and verve of this African ritual is caught in this song.

Brown Skin Gal – A young lady is told to take life more seriously. Rather than spend so much time living the high life, she is told to ‘Stay home and mind baby’.

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Cleaning Your Records? – A How To Guide, or or ‘the Toilet seat that played Punk’


How the hell do I clean the crap off this record?

I regularly visit a site called the Pama Forum where like-minded old fat and balding geezers (and some handsome younger types) discuss everything from rare Ethiopians sides to even rarer cuts to Golden Snake.

I recently asked a question about cleaning some of my records and here are those very same questions and the answers and then the ensuing discussion.

Finally as usual it breaks down into rudeness and suggestions of ideas for musical toilet seats, but before it gets quite that indulgent I think it makes for informative and interesting reading.

Many of these guys are full time record dealers and all are avid and very serious collectors.

Washing Tub Plates, Not Dub Plates!

Me

Believe it or not, and I know it sounds mad,… to date I have only ever cleaned records if needed as they come into me, and never since, some of the tunes I first collected or the most played ones are beggining to suffer from mildew and muck growing on wayward fingerprints or something like it…, one a Gregory 12″ I was playing last night to see if I wanted to include it on my next play list was skipping because of it and I know of a few others in similar states, I can’t avoid the obvious any longer, I need to get cleaning.

If a 7″ record is dusty before play I don’t use any sort of hand held device, preffering the ‘rub it pon mi belly’ method, which has seemed to suffice given the cleanliness of my T-Shirt (generally), Lps just have to suffer, even the surface area of my belly isn’t that big! . . . but, with this mildewing, growing muck on fingerprints issue, I need to get busy with the Cillit Bang or equivalent and I’m here to ask for youse guys suggestions…

If I list what my requirements are, perhaps you might share your knowledge and experiences..

1. Something to clean old 78s with, a product? A method? Must be safe and non destructive long term (also, what not to clean them with). Steve Barrow once told me that a mate of his used Fairy, hot water (not too hot) a bristle scrubbing brush, and left them to dry in the plate rack!) really???!!

2. Something for Lps, 45s and 12s to restore them if second hand and mucky/old muck and even, is there anything that shifts that oily crap on so many Jamaican represses? (ie, the Dealers’ and eBay Emperor’s best time saving friends)

3. Something for maintaining generally, ie, where things are clean(ish) to keep them clean and preent this ‘growth’ I am finding, which is probably a result o where they are stored (ie the attic, and no particularly to Phil I say, and yes it’s VERY upsetting, I do not currently have an option, – small house). I want something that will work easily and quick, as sometimes I only discover the need as I’m cuing up the next tune..

4. Further recommendations, a Cleaning and anti static brush, Isopropanol Alchohol, the PVA glue clean method?

Basically I’m wanting to put a little kit together that will maintain my collection, with as little effort (and expense) as possible.

Thanks all in anticipation of your help…

mikey Mike Murphy

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Door Peeper

IMHO forget all the fancy machines and solvents.
Fairy in warm water (fully cover the label) run round in the direction of the grooves with a small block of acoustic foam, rinse in clean warm water and stand to air dry in a record rack.
That’s been my method for 20 years now and I’ve clean every record that comes through here.
Nasty sticky bits can be cleaned off with Surgical Spirit first.
I’ll now wait for Martin to disagree!! Great big lumps of it round the back…………..
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enthucol

1. Something to clean old 78s with, Steve Barrow once told me that a mate of his used Fairy, hot water (not too hot) a bristle scrubbing brush, and left them to dry in the plate rack!) really???!!

Thats the method Joe Broussard is seen using to clean 78s in ‘Desperate Man Blues’

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2. Something for Lps, 45s and 12s to restore them if second hand and mucky/old muck and even, is there anything that shifts that oily crap on so many Jamaican represses? (ie, the Dealers’ and eBay Emperor’s best time saving friends) 

3. Something for maintaining generally, ie, where things are clean(ish) to keep them clean and preent this ‘growth’ I am finding, which is probably a result o where they are stored (ie the attic, and no particularly to Phil I say, and yes it’s VERY upsetting, I do not currently have an option, – small house). I want something that will work easily and quick, as sometimes I only discover the need as I’m cuing up the next tune..

Warm water a tiny spot of washing up liquid (I mean tiny) in a glass on warm water and a tooth brush works for me, for more stubborn marks (Grease/glue etc) cigarette lighter petrol or Isopropanol Alchohol again with a toothbrush (Preferably not the one you use for your teeth!) and dry with a soft towel, same method works for mould spots etc, but do not get the labels wet!

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4. Further recommendations, a Cleaning and anti static brush, Isopropanol Alchohol, the PVA glue clean method?

See; Cleaning records with wood glue

Mick H

The tepid soapy water works best. And I agree about using other agents for really bad records, but dilute with water.

Jmatherton

Most records will benefit from immersion in tepid soapy water as recommended above. I use Ronson lighter fuel (squirt it on, rub off with hanky or J cloth using circular motion) for tougher stains, and isopropwhatsit to get rid of real clag.
BUT NEVER NEVER NEVER use the isothingy alcohol on 78s – I did once and it takes the surface right off, leaving them a dull matt grey.
I don’t know if EMI still market Emitex cleaning material but I suspect not.

Matty J

IMHO, unless you have something that really gets into the grooves, you’re only doing half a job.

My method is soak ’em in the bath in warm tepid water with a trace of surfactant (fairy, bubble bath, anything like that). Certain labels bleed colour and should not be soaked, but 95% are completely unharmed by a soak.

Get a new paintbrush, either real or quality plastic bristle, and ‘paint’ a bar of soap. Not cheapo plastic brishes as the bristles are larger and have angled sharp ends that might possibly cause groove damage.

Hold the record and run the bristles point first round the record in the opposite direction to playing for about ten ‘strokes’, you should get a small lather forming. If, at this point you flick the foam off the brush onto the basin, you may be quite surprised at how off-white it has actually become, hence my initial observation.

When both sides are cleaned, rinse under the hot tap and drain off in a plastic or hot powder coated vintage record rack, but do not allow to dry completely.

Finally use some toilet paper folded into a pad to dry off the remaining water and polish off the surface to remove prints. Once the paper becomes damp, it won’t remove surface prints, so fold over a new layer and continue. Dab any moisture off the labels, don’t rub.

Allow to dry in free air. Reserve the paintbrush for future use, do not allow the wife to Dulux the back door with it.

The benefits of using this method are best possible sound, in that everything that can be removed from the groove is removed and the surface of the disc is restored to its best possible lustre and prints are effectively cleaned off. The one potential down side of this is that you also clean out the scratches, so a deep groover that had previously been partially filled in with mud may sound worse.

I’ve been doing this for 20 years or so, and this often improves the playability of records purchased from dealers that look reasonably clean. I clean pretty much everything I keep in this way, and most of the pricier stuff I sell, although I don’t sell very often. Records cleaned this way don’t develop mould spots, although it’s important that the labels are allowed to fully dry before sleeving in any poly-lined inner or outer.

I have an ultrasonic bath as well (I worked for 9 years for a company that made them), but I don’t use it as it is (even) more fiddly and time-consuming and does not produce better results than the paintbrush method described above.

Also worth mentioning is the use of label-remover on records. This must be the Limonene type as made by DeSolvIt amongst others.

I recently picked up a copy of the Warrior 12″ re-cut by Johnny Osbourne that had been kept in a taped sleeve and one side had sellotape glue all over the first 12mm on one side. This wasn’t removable by the water method above so, after testing the label remover on a worthless Top Deck single and finding that it didn’t erode the surface or audibly degrade it, I used the label remover with the paintbrush as described above, and the sellotape glue lifted like magic from the grooves. Listening to it or looking at it, you’d never know that it had been virtually unlistenable 5 minutes beforehand.

I was at one time thinking of making a machine to automate the cleaning process, but never got round to it.

Matty

Edited by Matty-J, Nov 11 2010, 12:38 PM.

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Johnny Dollar

I had read you should take a mix of disstilled water and alcohol. The distilled water is needed because of the chalk in normal water, which can lay down in the grooves while drying. The alcohol makes shure that the record drys fast without arrears.

Any opinions to that? i have never try this, but i think the fact of the distilled water is plausible.

Rude Pete

Johnny Dollar
Nov 11 2010, 01:01 PM
I had read you should take a mix of disstilled water and alcohol. The distilled water is needed because of the chalk in normal water, which can lay down in the grooves while drying. The alcohol makes shure that the record drys fast without arrears. 

Any opinions to that? i have never try this, but i think the fact of the distilled water is plausible.

That’s what I use…. isopropwhatsit* diluted with de-ionised water….

* isopropyl alcohol

Dubmart

If you haven’t got a cleaning machine you really don’t know what you are missing, yes the above methods “clean” records, but they are absolutely inferior to a vacuum based machine and an enzyme based cleaner, a cleaning machine is an essential item for anyone who collects records seriously, you can’t cut corners!

With regard to 78s the number one rule is to avoid solvents.

There are already a few threads on this if you do a search.

Nov 11 2010, 01:01 PM
I had read you should take a mix of disstilled water and alcohol. The distilled water is needed because of the chalk in normal water, which can lay down in the grooves while drying. The alcohol makes shure that the record drys fast without arrears. 

Any opinions to that? i have never try this, but i think the fact of the distilled water is plausible.

Tap water varies depending on your location, (mine is full of limescale), but it all caries impurities, I use purified water, it doesn’t cost much more than distilled.

Me

Thanks so far all, interesting how we have all created our own methods, sort of seperately and together at the same time…

I knew the avoid solvents issue with 78s.

One reason for asking you guys what you think is to cross check my current methods and think about better ways to do stuff, in my case mianly cleaning old stuff just bought and full of crud.

One of the suggestions above I tried and have stopped, namely using any brush capable of cleaning off any grime on 45s or indeed Lps, I find having done run off groove tests that a brush, particularly a toothbrush abrades the surface with small marks, this has to degrade sound reproduction. Vinyl’s just too soft I think for this sort of treatment.

In short 78s are really very robust, and having started collecting them more I am amazed at how poor the surface can look, and how good the sound quality yet can be, the grooves are very deep. Vinyl is not as robust and I worry that my/our efforts at cleaning them could be cleaning dirt out in the short term, and yes they’ll immediately sound better, but actually we could be degrading the record that sits under that dirt pre-clean to some extent.

Also, though I use it, I also have doubts and worries about using toilet paper. I have noticed that toilet paper, designed to rapidly degrade in water (for obvious bye bye the sewage reasons) breaks apart quickly and leaves minute fibres in the grooves, this surely can’t be good practice, unless you clean them out later of course with say a final clean of Iso Alchohol. ( I don’t do this though)

I have also used Paper towells to avoid the quick degrading of the ‘ toilet paper method’ but think (best guess) that kitchen towell is more abrasive than toilet paper. though it leaves less fibres behind.

Towells? – Similarly, I can’t help but worry over this method too, they’re not soft enough in this household, the wife can’t stand Lenor!!

I have used toothbrushes and very hot water (no not boiling), with generous Fairy liquid on 78s with excellent results, avoiding water on any labels (45s, Lps or 78s), though finding that labels don’t seem overly bothered about getting a little water on them. Making certain to rinse off any residue of the Fairy liquid, rinsing in clean water, directly under the tap avoiding the labels. The water is good in our area, so not too much mineral to worry about (I think!).

My method on Lps and 45s is to get a bowl of hot water, drop two small (and I mean smaaaaaaallll) drops of Fairly or similar in, stir, and to dip the toilet paper (yep the one I’m not sure about) into the water, running in the direction of the grooves, a number of times, checking the slight resultant froth on the edges of the paper for grey, an indication of dirt. Then once done using more paper in clean water, or running under the tap carefully to rinse. then drying off either by pressing down onto kitchen roll, or wiping with dry toilet paper, though I’m now avoiding this method for the fibres issue mentioned above.

ONE OF MY BIGGEST WORRIES IS – Are there any truly long term affects on vinyl by something like Fairy, ie, we only know in the short term that there seem to be no ‘issues’. Long term Fairy rot is a future I dont’ want… also are Alchohols truly safe in the long term, any Chemists amongst us?

Also, when cleaning dirt off using a method that implies scrubbing or movement of any kind you are then abrading the surface for a short time with the very stuff you are trying to clean off, a little like creating a very mild wet and dry sandpaper and rubbing it over your records. However short term this is, surely it too must have some affect, and on records that you really care about, or feel in some way a custodian of, in that they are truly rare. This worries me too. Mike Murphy

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Rude Pete

I use lint free cloths to apply my solution, and then a final rinse with de-ionised water and air dry.

Door Peeper

Vinyl is only a kind-of plastic in the end and we happily smear Mr Sheen or other gunky cleaners all over car bumpers and table tops so I’ve never been too worried about a bit of Fairy especially as I always rinse well.
I never get bog paper near records as not does it break down very fast when wet but is made from very poor/cheap/recycled paper and very fibrous thus leaves tiny hairs on the record.

upsetter fc

The key to dish washing soap for records is a non-ionic sufricant, basically shampoo. It’s desigined to rinse off and will not leave a film like soap. Toothbrushes can be used on 45s, but only soft-bristled and don’t “scrub” the 45. I only use the toothbrush to spread the Ivory soap and water which helps the brush loosen the surface dirt. Drying is done with a washcloth, since it absorbs and holds water.

The Library Of Congress has a webpage on record preservation.
And here is an old usenet article on cleaning 78s. Tighten Up Brooklyn
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Dubmart

Mike Murphy
Nov 11 2010, 02:42 PM
ONE OF MY BIGGEST WORRIES IS – Are there any truly long term affects on vinyl by something like Fairy, ie, we only know in the short term that there seem to be no ‘issues’. Long term Fairy rot is a future I dont’ want… also are Alchohols truly safe in the long term, any Chemists amongst us? 

Fairy, although great for cleaning your dishes is far from ideal as a detergent for records, they add all sorts of things to it and unless you are rinsing extremely thoroughly, or using a vacuum you will be leaving residue behind.

I’ve yet to see any evidence that dilute isopropyl or similar solvents are strong enough to attack PVC or release the plasticizers, etc., and know that some people use industrial strength solvents without apparent damage.

I use an enzyme based cleaner because it is better than either solvents or detergents, though there are occasions when the other approaches are the best option.

One other thing, pre war 78s can be made from all sorts of ingredients, so if anyone has a pile of Blues they feel the urge to clean, be very, very careful.

Matty-J

Well, I’m sure we all individually think we have the best method, so there’s not much more to be said on that score unless we’re going to do some scientific record contamination, clean records using the different methods, and then some blind listening tests to sort it out – anyone up for it !-)

My two comments would be:

Yes, toilet paper does leave small fibres behind, but only really ‘decomposes’ or sludges up if you’re using the posh stuff for all those of you with sensitive botties. El cheapo, like Asda’s pastel shades works perfectly well and will hold together excellently, you do have to shop around to get the right stuff. Kitchen towels are usually rubbish and surprisingly water-repellant to start with, so they don’t dry really effectively.

The fibres that are left behind are easily cleaned off using a standard dry cleaning pad, like the old Musonic or Stanton types, or if you’re really particular (tee-hee), a Groovac (groove-vac) will be fine. In any event, a clean dry record means they’re not going to stick around and even your stylus will remove the remaing few without damage. By the way, properly doped black vinyl is much more resilient than shellac and is less easily damaged.

Toothbrushes are useless for cleaning anything other than the flat surface. The diameter of the brush is considerably greater than your stylus, and it won’t therefore penetrate the groove and remove any of the crud that is causing stylus deviation and resultant noise, hence my suggestion regarding real hair brushes or quality plastic paintbrushes.

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Me

Matty that’s interesting regardin your brush filament diameter point, and point taken, I’ll be trying it now, also wondering what that enyme based cleaner is you use Dubmart? I’d like to try that as it seems a very good option.

Also, given the mention (Upsetter FC)of preferably using an easy rinse non ionic surficant, could you indeed use Shampoo do you think? what do you use?

I’ve found Groovac’s entirely useless, at least i did 20 years ago…

Door Peeper
Nov 11 2010, 03:08 PM
Vinyl is only a kind-of plastic in the end and we happily smear Mr Sheen or other gunky cleaners all over car bumpers and table tops so I’ve never been too worried about a bit of Fairy especially as I always rinse well.

Though, really we dont expect our car bumpers or table tops to store audio and reproduce it at quality over any length of time, or at all for that matter…

Make a nice art project though, ‘the curtains that played Bach’, or ‘the Toilet seat that played Punk’… Mike Murphy

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Door Peeper

Indeed not, but the basic process is the same for moulding a car bumper or stamping a 45.
I’d like my bog seat to play ‘Here We Go Again’ or of course the old school playground josh ‘Yellow River’. Great big lumps of it round the back…………..
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Dubmart

I use L’art Du Son cleaner, a small bottle costs £30, but will make up 5 litres of fluid depending on your preference.

Door Peeper

Being tee-total and knowing nothing about alcohol ‘L’art Du Son’ sounds like a bottle of posh French wine to me!

Fang Sheng

http://www.verygoodplus.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21250&highlight=glue

jmatherton

With reference to DP’s musical loo seat:
…or ‘Royal Flush’ by The Skatalites, ‘Jericho Chain’ by Rolando Alphonso, ‘Stop That Strain’ by Keith & Tex or perhaps something by The Floaters?
I’m intrigued by the reference in a previous post to a “worthless Top Deck 45”. Which one would that be, pray?

Me

Nice Stop That Strain,, perfect… and yes even scratched to crap a Top Deck single must surely be worth something, I’d buy it just to have one on the label, as of yet I do not own one yap produced original.

Skajam 66

I use velvet to clean mine. First I spray on isopropyl alchohol and work the record around in a circular fashion. You can feel when the velvet pile engages into the track. Then I do the same with distilled water and a different piece of velvet. Finally I dry them with a soft cotton cloth.

Uncle Fee

Yo,

All very interesting methods…………….me, i just chuck ’em in the washing machine or dishwasher…….. :sc:

Bless Up
Fee :cool:

Aeon23

Mike

I posted these a few years back on here thought I’d revive them for the new members of this forum

Traditional Record Cleaning Process
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Now you know why they are called plates :bgrin:

Madame Streggae

I remember these images. Brixton, wasn’t it?

Aeon23

Where else 🙂 in the UK that is

Madame Streggae

Old Barry over at Downbeat Records could be seen doing this too.

enthucol

but generally in the store rather than on the pavement

postscript

The above is intended as a helping hand to those who want to keep their audio media in tip top condition, though, on second look it also appears to be a warning to all.  Collecting records can get to be a full time affair!

Thanks finally to all that contributed…. happy collecting… believe it or not, I’m pretty sure my facination started with this little beauty below in the late 60s and early 70s. Quality was pretty bad, tunes to be found for it somewhat limited, but… you could scrub the hell out of the records without ruining the sound reproduction at least!

I consider that this was my first ever record player...

Record Collecting ~ Vinyl penis envy?


There will always be a bloke ’round the corner with a bigger record collection than you’ve got, so what’s it all about Alfie?

I get so bored with all the machismatic posturing amongst male record collectors. In the Hall of Musical Kings they brag of their conquests at all night sessions of self congratulatory vinyl stroking onanism, bleary eyed, sat in front of message boards for the middling fat these confirmed left hand mouse users and compulsive disorderlies forget the first law of collecting. It should always be about the music, never about some distorted vision of ownership!

Don’t be frightened of Jamaican music collectors

I remember when I started to collect Jamaican music, all on my lonesome, those first few re-issues via Trojan’s mail order, a few Lps I could find around the place, then a tune from a guy’s website, then another tune, then eBay and all the time finding my own way. It was therefore with some trepidation that I made my first contact with a ‘scene’ and enrolled on a Reggae music message board. There I found a suspicious welcome and a lot of snobbery. However after the settling in period and a while spent merely observing, upon the free admittance that I was a new boy on the block everyone was very very helpful and friendly. I continue to find out a great deal and hopefully now offer some information via this sort of thing, and they aren’t as frightening as you’d think the first time you drop by. The further you climb up to the top of the ‘Reggae Supremo’ charts the friendlier these people get too, with less to defend than their smaller collectioned penised counterparts, those that have experienced this wonderful musical genre first hand are ready willing and able to share their knowledge and experiences. Of course, anyone who really loves a music and all it entails is only ever going to want to promote that music, to whomsoever, whenever.

But why does the madness start?

In a fit of peer pressure induced crazyness sometime in the early 1990s, having turned up on an invite to play some Reggae tunes at an evening friends had organised, I let myself be embarrassed by a group of ‘one up on you‘ vinyl addicts and the result has been that over a decade and a half later I can’t stop buying 7″ singles. I turned up clutching a selection of Cds in my sweaty little novice collecting palms only to be made very aware that if you wanted to consider yourself a real collector of Jamaican music this just wasn’t going to be good enough, only something with a matrix number on would suffice and I have to admit here that for once in my life I bent to another’s will and began collecting vinyl, having listened to it avidly as a young ‘un this wasn’t a great sacrifice, but I’ve never quite forgiven myself for giving in to their playground bullying. Still I can now feel relaxed at the prospect of being faced with their withering looks once gain, because I own a copy of DSR 9142a and other records like jblp 004 and TS-7483 and I know things, things that are so secret that they’ll never appear in a book by David Katz.

Der Blues

Once upon a time, while others were discovering Adam Ant and Antmusic, New Romanticism and therefore Shitemusic I was busy listening to and I guess by default ‘collecting’ Country Blues, at the age of 14 I’m proud to say that I was a musical loner and I guess I will always be disappointed in myself for letting someone else’s bigotry control how I listened and how I ‘collected’ music. Perhaps that’s the real reason for this article… I’m just angry about something.

Why the hell bother?

So many people that I now come into contact with seem to forget why the hell they started collecting, they started, I hope, because it was music they were first and foremostly interested in and the music led them up and down a path of buying records and then putting them somewhere, a record rack, a box, an attic. Later on, someone might turn to them and say ‘hey that pile of records is quite a collection’ and only at this point, with someone else’s qualification did they realise that by some mysterious osmotic process, noted only by others, that they had become a ‘Collector’. Others of course set out to collect and are not led to this moment by a musically enquiring nature. Instead they are led by some faintly mild medical problem, one my wife would describe as a form of mild Autism, Asperger’s Syndrome. She has a theory that all men are mildly Aspergers and that collecting is a trait of the mildly Aspergered, the medical website I’ve just looked at would seem to suggest that’s she’s not far off the mark! Actually to be fair, it’s just that some collect as if it were a game of trophies, often, as a result playing songs that would make a strangled cat having it’s testes minced sound tuneful and others find out that they’ve got a rare tune when that well worn sublimely beautiful single of Lloyd Robinson’s ‘The Worm’ sells for some silly amount to a Japanese collector on eBay.

Dance To The Music?!

Ultimately I have to say that I think the point of much Jamaican music (which is my own collecting habit of the last decade or so) is that it provides a floor upon which to dance… it’s good time music, music to move to and not music to regard under the microscopic tweezers of a beady eye and a database of matrices.  I’ve been to a number of ”Dances” and here I use that term loosely where rare tunes are played and fat blokes stand around scratching their chins to the music instead of moving their feet…

‘oi Dave, is that Lester Sterling’s first cut to Reggae In The Wind? Sounds like a different cut to me… p’raps it’s a Pre-release of it and it subsequently got a remix before the release on GAS.’ (Actually I have to say at this point that having constructed this pretend discussion for the purposes of illuminating the general collectors overall failing as a true music lover, I now find myself more than half interested in hearing the answer to this question!)

There’s nothing wrong with loving records

It didn’t take very long and I was falling in love with the object, as much as the music, the label, the look, the smell, the colour, the muck and oil typically found in the grooves of a Jamaican tune,… but I never let myself forget that the reason I was there in the first place was the music and it was that which was to be pursued. I have rare tunes in my collection but most if not all of them are worth listening to. I don’t keep them in a bank vault, I don’t hold back from including them on my radio show or putting them on a compilation for fear of de-valuing them.

Here are some websites worth checking out –

http://www.xs4all.nl/~tapirs/

http://jamaicanlabelart.com/

http://s7.zetaboards.com/PAMA_FORUM/index/

http://www.dancecrasher.co.uk/blog/

http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/db/index.php

http://www.roots-archives.com/

http://bigmikeydread.podomatic.com/